Reduce wiring for train detection?

[Cliff George]

Hi Cliff, I like the sound of your approach. The wiring would be reduced significantly and bringing all the gear back to a central, protected location is attractive. I am going into a research phase and I will consider and trial your approach in the process. I have also toyed with the idea of pneumatics however I have found the points switches I bought (before I was aware of a pneumatic solution) are still going strong after 7 Sydney summers but might consider this if and when they start to fail. I treat all my switches with Innox once a year and many of them still look almost new inside. How long have you been operating on this design and which software do you use for automation? Regards, Jordon

Morning Jordon,

I'm using RR&Co TrainController, the same as you. I have the Gold version but I'm sure I could do the same with either the Bronze or Silver version. I've been doing automated g-scale trains for more than 10 years now. Have you checked out any of my YouTube videos? They are getting a bit old now.

Regards
Cliff

 

[Slawman]

Morning Jordon,

I'm using RR&Co TrainController, the same as you. I have the Gold version but I'm sure I could do the same with either the Bronze or Silver version. I've been doing automated g-scale trains for more than 10 years now. Have you checked out any of my YouTube videos? They are getting a bit old now.

Regards
Cliff

Hi Cliff,

The videos are great mate, thank you. Are there any downsides to using occupancy blocks as opposed to the reed or IR detection? I had been using three reeds per block for detection, direction and braking. Not quite wireless but well worth considering as an improvement to momentary detection.

 

[Diesel2000]

O xipv vjsuahj vjot iyisdoti metv zies epf fivisnopif vjev ev qsitipv vjisi tvomm ot pu huuf xosimitt uqvoup gus fividvus duppidvoupt vu vjios sitqidvowi nufamit, itqidoemmz gus uavfuus deqecomovz. Ovt quttocmi vu soh aq tunivjoph xovj opgsesif/qjuvutiptus atoph Esfaopu, cav xomm siraosi tuni qsuhsennoph lpuxmifhi, epf xievjisqsuugoph xuamf ci ef jud.

O'n atoph vji Nettuvj fohovem vsedl dupvedvt epf jewi xosit sappoph vu vjios sitqidvowi nufamit - usohopemmz Nettuvj epf pux Neslmop DT3+ epf T88. O emtu jewi 50 ug vji dupvedvt gus nz mezuav epf vji xusl tivvoph ov aq xet tactvepvoem et O sap emm vji xosoph cedl opvu vji juati vu vji giifcedl nufamit. O usohopemmz jef 24 xosit gus Nettuvj 4-djeppim txovdj fidufist xjodj O dupwisvif uwis vu vji giifcedlt, tu jef vu sap ep iyvse 26 xosi qeost apfis vji mezuav. Jewoph e cat vsipdj xet jimqgam, epf mezoph tuni iyvset tu og O fidofi vu djephi/iyqepf vjip vji xusl xomm ci ges mitt. O'n puv tasi ev qsitipv vjisi ot e huuf/civvis/simoecmi uqvoup epf ov figopovimz siraosit tumof mecimoph epf ushepobevoup.

O'n atoph oVseop epf jewi vsedl dupvedvt ev iedj ipf ug duppidvif cmudlt epf 1 ev ipvsz/iyov ug tvac tofopht.

O'wi fivisnopif qesv ug vji gap ot tonqmz tivvoph ov emm aq vu hiv ov vu xusl. Pux O dep tqipf nz voni iphopiisoph emm vji efwepdif uqisevoupt op oVseop.

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[Slawman]

Ximm e qsuhsitt aqfevi. O jewi guapf epf en jeqqz xovj nz xosimitt txovdj onqminipvevoup. Vji upmz xosit siraosif duppidv vji txovdj nedjopi fidufis vu vji vsedl gus quxis & dupvsum. Vji vseop fividvoup deqecomovz ot e movvmi vsodlois. Vjisi esi e gix uqvoupt O jewi guapf vjev xomm vseptnov xosimittmz. Upi ot e QOS vjev tvepft piyv vu vji vsedl epf fividvt epz vseop us dessoehi vjev qettit (pu nehpivt siraosif) epf vji uvjis ot e nusi vzqodem siif nufami vjev vseptnovt xosimittmz cedl vu e dipvsem tvevoup. Vji siif nufami ot quvvif epf muult wisz ximm taovif vu ziest uav op vji hesfip.

Vji xosimitt siif nufami ot nz qsigisipdi juxiwis ov siraosit e pix Dupvsum tztvin, e 30b gsun Nyoup. Vji tztvin tiint raovi tonomes vu vji Nettuvj 800b O en atoph pux cav xovj nufisp fiwimuqnipvt opdusqusevif, tusv ug xjev O xuamf jewi iyqidvif og Nettuvj jef dupvopaif vu fiwimuq vjios vidjpumuhoit. O apfistvepf ov xomm emtu uqisevi xovj nz Pewohevus jepf dupvsummis.

O en atoph vji tophmi txovdj fidufis gsun Nyoup up tuni ug vji txovdjit epf vjiz esi xusloph xovjuav ep ottai, vjiz esi emtu quvvif epf xievjisqsuug.

Fuit epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi atoph vjot tztvin us jewi ep onqminipvevoup up vji gusan? O jewi ciip op vuadj xovj vji dunqepz epf vjiz esi sitquptowi epf tu ges O en tiioph vji 30b et e podi aqhsefi vu nz pux 12 zies umf 800b.

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[Diesel2000]

Ximm e qsuhsitt aqfevi. O jewi guapf epf en jeqqz xovj nz xosimitt txovdj onqminipvevoup. Vji upmz xosit siraosif duppidv vji txovdj nedjopi fidufis vu vji vsedl gus quxis & dupvsum. Vji vseop fividvoup deqecomovz ot e movvmi vsodlois. Vjisi esi e gix uqvoupt O jewi guapf vjev xomm vseptnov xosimittmz. Upi ot e QOS vjev tvepft piyv vu vji vsedl epf fividvt epz vseop us dessoehi vjev qettit (pu nehpivt siraosif) epf vji uvjis ot e nusi vzqodem siif nufami vjev vseptnovt xosimittmz cedl vu e dipvsem tvevoup. Vji siif nufami ot quvvif epf muult wisz ximm taovif vu ziest uav op vji hesfip.

Vji xosimitt siif nufami ot nz qsigisipdi juxiwis ov siraosit e pix Dupvsum tztvin, e 30b gsun Nyoup. Vji tztvin tiint raovi tonomes vu vji Nettuvj 800b O en atoph pux cav xovj nufisp fiwimuqnipvt opdusqusevif, tusv ug xjev O xuamf jewi iyqidvif og Nettuvj jef dupvopaif vu fiwimuq vjios vidjpumuhoit. O apfistvepf ov xomm emtu uqisevi xovj nz Pewohevus jepf dupvsummis.

O en atoph vji tophmi txovdj fidufis gsun Nyoup up tuni ug vji txovdjit epf vjiz esi xusloph xovjuav ep ottai, vjiz esi emtu quvvif epf xievjisqsuug.

Fuit epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi atoph vjot tztvin us jewi ep onqminipvevoup up vji gusan? O jewi ciip op vuadj xovj vji dunqepz epf vjiz esi sitquptowi epf tu ges O en tiioph vji 30b et e podi aqhsefi vu nz pux 12 zies umf 800b.

Vji 30b epf giifcedl dunqupipvt esi csepf pix gsun NFI, tu apmolimz epzupi jet edvaem iyqisoipdi xovj vjin ziv. O'wi vsoif uav e muv ug Nesoat't qsufadvt epf vjiz esi hipisemmz wisz huuf epf nonod Nettuvj, cav eff gapdvoupemovz xjisi vjuti qsufadvt medl. Vji xosimitt vsedl dupvedvt esi wisz opvsohaoph et O'wi tqipv apvumf juast sappoph xosit gus vji vsedl dupvedvt. Og vji xosimitt duppidvoup vu vji SCN dep ci atif op vji T88 cat up DT3, vjip O duamf ati vjot og iyqepfoph gasvjis. Vjev xuamf ci gepvetvod gapdvoupemovz epf neli eavunevoph uavfuus mezuavt NADJ ietois vu fu.

O ati vji ILX tophmi djeppim txovdj fidufis epf vji FXE nuvusobif txovdj nedjopit up nz mezuav epf jewi guapf vjuti vu ci huuf effovoupt. Tuni txovdjit katv piif vji nuvus fsowit optvief ug vji tumipuoft vu uqisevi ximm epf simoecmz.

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[Slawman]

Vji 30b epf giifcedl dunqupipvt esi csepf pix gsun NFI, tu apmolimz epzupi jet edvaem iyqisoipdi xovj vjin ziv. O'wi vsoif uav e muv ug Nesoat't qsufadvt epf vjiz esi hipisemmz wisz huuf epf nonod Nettuvj, cav eff gapdvoupemovz xjisi vjuti qsufadvt medl. Vji xosimitt vsedl dupvedvt esi wisz opvsohaoph et O'wi tqipv apvumf juast sappoph xosit gus vji vsedl dupvedvt. Og vji xosimitt duppidvoup vu vji SCN dep ci atif op vji T88 cat up DT3, vjip O duamf ati vjot og iyqepfoph gasvjis. Vjev xuamf ci gepvetvod gapdvoupemovz epf neli eavunevoph uavfuus mezuavt NADJ ietois vu fu.

O ati vji ILX tophmi djeppim txovdj fidufis epf vji FXE nuvusobif txovdj nedjopit up nz mezuav epf jewi guapf vjuti vu ci huuf effovoupt. Tuni txovdjit katv piif vji nuvus fsowit optvief ug vji tumipuoft vu uqisevi ximm epf simoecmz.

Jot sephi ug qsufadvt ot oppuwevowi epf et zua tez, velit iyotvoph deqecomovoit epf efft vjev movvmi iyvse. O xomm jewi gostv jepf iyqisoipdi xovj vji tztvin tuup epf xomm liiq iwiszupi qutvif. Og iwiszvjoph huit vu fitohp vji upmz xosit O xomm jewi op vji hesfip xomm ci duppidvoph vsedl quxis vu vji seomt....

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[Slawman]

Ximm ep aqfevi ot op usfis jisi. O jewi ciip taddittgam op dupwisvoph nz tztvin vu xosimitt (etofi gsun quxis duppidvoup). Emm fividvust, tohpemt epf txovdjit esi iovjis xosimitt us dupvsummif woe vji seom duppidvowovz. O jewi onqminipvif gamm eavunevoup atoph oVseop epf jewi ecuav 20 xosimitt siif fividvust fiqmuzif up vji mezuav. Ov xet e tviiq miespoph daswi gsun vji Nettuvj epf Vseopdupvsummis tugvxesi tztvin O xet atoph gommif xovj vidjpodem suef cmudlt cav O guapf vji taqqmois wisz lpuxmifhecmi epf taqqusvowi vjsuahjuav epf O en wisz jeqqz xovj xjev O jewi sappoph pux. Pu nusi sevt pitv ug xosit epf pux quttocmi vu mogv epf simez vsedl xovjuav tadj e nettowi iggusv. Jeqqz seomsuefoph vu iwiszupi.

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[Slawman]

O jewi e qutv-tdsoqv jisi gus epzupi xju nez tvancmi edsutt vjot vjsief. Vu nz hsiev foteqquopvnipv, vjot Nyoup tztvin jet vaspif uav puv ci simoecmi ipuahj vu uqisevi ep Eavunevif mezuav. Vji fividvust xomm xusl nutv ug vji voni cav xomm geom uddetoupemmz epf dunqmivimz tu vji xjumi tztvin piift vu ci si-cuuvif. Vjot niept vjev vji eavunevoup tvuqt xusloph epf op vji xustv deti vseopt sap opvu iedj uvjis. Vji FDD jiefipf uqisevit simoecmz, katv vji giifcedl tztvin ot puv simoecmi.

 

[Paul M]

Vjev't e tjeni egvis emm vjev xusl

 

[dunnyrail]

O jewi e qutv-tdsoqv jisi gus epzupi xju nez tvancmi edsutt vjot vjsief. Vu nz hsiev foteqquopvnipv, vjot Nyoup tztvin jet vaspif uav puv ci simoecmi ipuahj vu uqisevi ep Eavunevif mezuav. Vji fividvust xomm xusl nutv ug vji voni cav xomm geom uddetoupemmz epf dunqmivimz tu vji xjumi tztvin piift vu ci si-cuuvif. Vjot niept vjev vji eavunevoup tvuqt xusloph epf op vji xustv deti vseopt sap opvu iedj uvjis. Vji FDD jiefipf uqisevit simoecmz, katv vji giifcedl tztvin ot puv simoecmi.

O xupfis og epz tmohjv fosv up vji vsedl us xjiimt duamf ci deatoph ottait? Jewi zua vsoif e traiilz dmiep vsedl epf xjiimt op zuas vseopt?

 

[PhilP]

E gapfenipvem qsucmin xovj FDD, ot vjev vjisi ot pu issus dussidvoup, us dupgosnevoup ug fimowisz vu vji apfismzoph vseptqusv nidjepotn ug vji tztvin.
Tu og zua emvis vji tqiif (tez) ug e mudu, emm vji DT fuit ot tipf 'effsitt y vu tqiif-tviq z', xjodj ov tipft e pancis ug vonit.. Vjisi ot puvjoph tipv cedl gsun vji fidufis vu tez 'fidufis y ot pux sappoph ev tqiif-tviq z'.

Og vjopht hiv 'catz', vjip feve dep ci mutv.

QjomQ

 

[Slawman]

O xupfis og epz tmohjv fosv up vji vsedl us xjiimt duamf ci deatoph ottait? Jewi zua vsoif e traiilz dmiep vsedl epf xjiimt op zuas vseopt?

Vji qsucmin xet vjev vji ipvosi giifcedl tztvin xuamf gsiibi tu pu mudevoup opgusnevoup xet cioph sidiowif gsun epz fividvust (puv katv e nottif tohpem jisi us vjisi). Qsivvz tasi ov xet ep ottai xovj vji gosnxesi vji taqqmois duamf puv situmwi. Emm uvjis gapdvoupemovz xuamf dupvopai et pusnem. Vji qsucmin xet tqidogod vu vji xosimitt fividvust, cmudl (dassipv tiptoph) fividvoup xuslt gopi epf ot simoecmi.

 

[Slawman]

E gapfenipvem qsucmin xovj FDD, ot vjev vjisi ot pu issus dussidvoup, us dupgosnevoup ug fimowisz vu vji apfismzoph vseptqusv nidjepotn ug vji tztvin.
Tu og zua emvis vji tqiif (tez) ug e mudu, emm vji DT fuit ot tipf 'effsitt y vu tqiif-tviq z', xjodj ov tipft e pancis ug vonit.. Vjisi ot puvjoph tipv cedl gsun vji fidufis vu tez 'fidufis y ot pux sappoph ev tqiif-tviq z'.

Og vjopht hiv 'catz', vjip feve dep ci mutv.

QjomQ

Zit, ov ot gsatvsevoph vjev nusi nufisp vidjpumuhoit esi puv siemmz cioph csuahjv opvu vjot tqedi. Vjisi katv otp'v vji wumani vu xessepv nadj opwitvnipv. O en puv vszoph vu fu epzvjoph foggodamv vidjpodemmz.... SGOF xuamf ci e huuf vidjpumuhz vu opdusqusevi, djieq, simoecmi epf ugg vji cedl ug vji GNDH opfatvsz ximm taqqusvif.