mts anolog blank off track reverse engine travel when in use
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idlemarvel
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We'd like to help, but you will have to try re-wording your question.
Greg Elmassian
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My vote is for Phil's interpretation. 
When i,m using my m.t.s l.g.b. central station control for gauge 1 anolog engines and wish to bring them over a blanked off piece of track, the track is open so it's live
these gauge 1 engine go into reverse motion. the engines are 2 prerie and a 4mts standard shencheng chinese engines
are these engines not dcc and what would be my best solution to run these on the central station system
these gauge 1 engine go into reverse motion. the engines are 2 prerie and a 4mts standard shencheng chinese engines
are these engines not dcc and what would be my best solution to run these on the central station system
Hello Mikeked
The NMRA standard has the right-hand rail as positive (when viewed from the drivers position in the loco).
The 'Large Scale' convention is for the left-hand rail to be positive. - Your MTS Central Station follows this convention.
You would need to swap over either the pickup wires, OR the motor wires on your gauge 1 loco's. Alternatively, you could fit (or have fitted) decoders to these loco's.
Note that running an analogue loco on a DCC (MTS) system for any length of time is not recommended.. You will probably hear the motor 'buzzing', and they tend to get hot, even if left stationary.
By all means run them, but not for long, and do not leave them sitting on the track with power applied.
Hope this helps?
PhilP
The NMRA standard has the right-hand rail as positive (when viewed from the drivers position in the loco).
The 'Large Scale' convention is for the left-hand rail to be positive. - Your MTS Central Station follows this convention.
You would need to swap over either the pickup wires, OR the motor wires on your gauge 1 loco's. Alternatively, you could fit (or have fitted) decoders to these loco's.
Note that running an analogue loco on a DCC (MTS) system for any length of time is not recommended.. You will probably hear the motor 'buzzing', and they tend to get hot, even if left stationary.
By all means run them, but not for long, and do not leave them sitting on the track with power applied.
Hope this helps?
PhilP
Thank you Phil for this information most useful I'm not sure what NMRA stands for but I presume this is what is on my gauge 1 engines,
I' still not clear why when they go through the blanked off sections of track when set to live, they run backwards, these blanked sections are
controled through the central station l.g.b. boxes.
I' still not clear why when they go through the blanked off sections of track when set to live, they run backwards, these blanked sections are
controled through the central station l.g.b. boxes.
I thought the idea of a forum was so people like me with little technical knowledge could learn from the more experiencedBlonde here two , is the question in English
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Zerogee
Clencher's Bogleman
It is, Mikeked (Mike?) - and I don't think anyone here is meaning any disrespect with our responses - the point is that we'd all like to help, but when we can't understand exactly what you're getting at with the question then it's a bit difficult. Once we can be sure of what the problem you're describing actually is, I'm sure that between us we can come up with some useful suggestions.....
Some people use different terminology for the same things (we have that a lot between UK and US based forum members!), but I've never before heard an isolated section referred to as a "blanked off track", hence my question to try to clarify that.
Next question is that if you're running under DCC control (LGB MTS), then is there a reason why you have isolated sections at all - is it because most of your collection is still analogue DC locos, or is it a legacy of when you used to run under analogue DC control?
Oh, and NMRA is the National Model Railroad Association, the American-based body that set down the standards that all (or most) DCC control manufacturers do, or should, follow so that all their products theoretically work together - do please note that I've put several qualifiers in that statement......
Jon.
NMRA = National Model Railroad Association
A body that oversees the DCC 'standards', amongst other things.. They came up with some conventions that mean our trains should behave in the same way on each other tracks..
The reason certain of your track sections behave differently:
Under DCC there is power on the track, but it is not this which controls the direction a loco will run.. That is done by the commands you send to the decoder in that particular loco.
This means you can swap the wires to the track, and the loco will still travels in a forwards direction when your Central Station tells that decoder 'make the loco go forwards'.
This is not true for your analogue loco's, which rely on track-polarity to set the direction they will travel..
If there are only certain sections of your track where this is a problem, then swap the wires feeding those sections of track over, and that should solve your problem.
Don't worry about the comments.. We tend to have a laugh at each others expense on here. No harm was meant, just a bit of 'banter' between other members of the Forum.
<edit> Jon and I obviously typing at the same time..
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Gardenbahner
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Are you seriously advising this? That's just asking for trouble. If an isolated section that is reverse polarised makes contact with the main section via a wheel or skate or dirt or water - you will get a short!
My advice would be to run DCC OR Analogue but not at the same time.