Jenbob - The new build for 2010 - Update 2011 Sunday 8th May!!!

Dylanlewis2000

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I have been in to G scale for most of my years, but due to other commitments what with School work, College and then University and also other hobbies G scale has taken a back seat, that was until the start of 2010, when i walked out to the garden and looked at a sorry looking single oval of G Scale track which has been buried from years and years of weathering.

It was a cold December weekend and I was looking for something to do. My trains which had laid dormant in the shed for the last few years were covered in cob webs and spiders (Of which I am petrified of). I decided to investigate what track I had left and found myself looking at piles of dirty track with rail joiners caked in dirt and grime, and so the big clean began.

Over the next few months I was the spend most of my free time in my shed, cleaning and sorting my track, assessing what could be kept and what should be thrown. After various methods of cleaning, I found the only one that worked for me was to use a good bit of sand paper and polishing block. Trying to clean rail joiners was a nightmare so in the end I have opted to replace all my rail joiners, not a cheap task but one that is worth it as I can guarantee electrical continuity. To date I have cleaned over 150 pieces of track.

With most of the track clean, the next thing was to look at the garden,


and here the story begins?.

The first job was to turn over the soil? I am not sure why I decided this was a good deal but at some point in the past something told me that this was the best thing to do.
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We are also going to build a small veranda so I can overlook my completed railway.

Today the first pieces of track have been laid. This is all being laid on decking board, which was used as the base of the last railway.
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As the decking is coming over the track I have had to dig down which in turn has created a lovely feature, Mountains. I have always wanted something where the trains can disappear in to and come out of, and I have inadvertently created it. One problem I have though is that once I cover the ?mountains? with stone, how will they keep their shape?

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So there you have it. Tomorrow I will be taking the track down in preparation for the slate that will be delivered on Tuesday.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

You appear to have maDE AN EXCELLENT START. ( dAMN!)
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

wow, day 1 and hes off!!:thumbup:
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

One problem I have though is that once I cover the ?mountains? with stone, how will they keep their shape?

A good start indeed. Perhaps you could dress those slopes with Hypa-Tuffa (sand, peat moss, cement mix), has worked well dressing cutting faces on our railway.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Thanks for the comments, they are really appreciated!

Not much was done today as i was removing a tree from part of the garden, however i did manage to clean up the "mountain" a bit and order some slate which will be delivered tomorrow

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On the plus side, i did manage to build another few track bases, ok they are not the best but they will do, and i plan to cover them with smaller chipping's.

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Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Excellant start - you'll enjoy that.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

So today slate was due, so in preparation this black stuff was laid

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Although only half of the garden has been done, i have only ordered a tonne of chippings.


At 14.20 a lorry arrived


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and a bag of chippings was left, now the hard task....


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I am currently half way through this and taking a quick break. At last its coming on!


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Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

So a quick update...

After discovering a tonne was not enough, i went to order a tonne and a half to try and complete the railway. While i was in the builders merchants i decided to have a look at smaller stones to put in between the sleepers, but i cant decide what i prefer. I like the white stones, but also the multicolour ones. The white ones are slightly smaller.

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Whilst waiting for the chipping's to be delivered i wanted to ensure that the soil mountains wouldnt move if something like a fox or other animal were to walk on them, so it was time it mix some cement

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At about half passed two the lorry arrived dropping off slate chippings for me.


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1.5 tonnes on the road for me...


This took around 40 minutes for me to get in and put on the old lawn. After that i decided to have a break and smooth off the cement i made.


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and this is what the slate looks like when its spread out.


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So tomorrow... providing it is dry, as we are due some rain, i will try and finish the cement work. Ahh well its all fun and games. THe only downside is that there is a lot of rain forecast over the next few days. I really want to get this finished asap as its been something that i have wanted to do for a number of years.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

I prefer the smaller white stones.:thumbup:
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Great progress , just hope you haven't bitten off more than you can chew.

Setting many smaller goals can me much easier than one big goal.

Do you have a track plan for us to see, looks like one large project.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Nice Plan , good luck :thumbup:
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Not wishing to rain on your parade because you are making excellent progress here, but that decking overhang. Looks to be in excess of a foot without support to me. You may need to rethink that a bit. I have a small overhand on my decking but I would never consider more than 3 inches or so. Can I suggest some upright posts cemented into the earth about a couple of feet long and BOLTED to the joists. You will need one for each joist. Just think of the effect of 3 or 4 bodies on that overhand.
JonD
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Dont worry, that is being taken care of. We are going to be driving supports in to the ground and affixing the structure of the decking to these, i know its a bit of a risk but i just want the trains to go under something.

It has been raining for two days here so i havent been able to make any progress with anything :( Getting rather annoyed now as i am going on holiday in a few days grrr
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Well after a few days of rain, today was the first day where the garden was not damp, so it was time to make more cement!

Unfortunately my previous endeavour with cement had not been the best, so i thought it would be best if i went to get some more!

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Once the ingredients were acquired the fun begun! It took me around 2 hours to mix and spread, a lot of sweat and energy has gone in to this, so it was left to dry, also dad helped too which really helped speed things up!

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So after that was left to dry nothing much more could be done in that corder of the garden as disturbing it would be detrimental to the project, instead i went to a friends house.

When i came back i thought it would be nice to see some track in the garden, so here we go... this is the first bit of track being laid.

Frist off LGB paste has been put in between the rail joiners to hopefully ensure good electrical connections... time will tell if this was just a waste of money or worth it.

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Some of the stones were dug out and the Aristocraft spirit level was used to ensure track was level.

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Another Radius three was put the other side along with a strait piece.

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And there you have it, the first bit of track down. I did take a video of the train going over the track, means something to me more than anything.... its nice to see its finally coming. I may have to adjust the track slightly to co inside with the track plan.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Ok, so far the build has been going smoothly, with a lot of time and effort going in to the design and planning of this.

The weather has been against me and for the last week at least its been off and on rain, however this has not put me off.

So on Tuesday the proper laying begun.

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A bit of paste and a cut rail here and we were nearly done...


Most of the track had been put down, however due to a bit of a mess up on my behalf, somehow i thought that 15 R3 pieces was enough to do a full circle knowing full well that 16 is needed, i was one short, however a drip down to Dragon first thing Wednesday morning and walla, a completed section of track...

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Once i had started i couldn't stop there so decided to add a set of points in...

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And now i have run out of strait track, however im off on holidays tomorrow, so will leave dad to play with the trains for a bit.

Video of a running train is being uploaded as we speak.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

Wow,that is looking really good, and so fast,well done that man,:thumbup:
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

So far looking great. I remember that feeling when I got to run my first train on the layout. Actually I still get that feeling now. LOL Cant wait to see more progress pics.
 
Re:Jenbob - The new build for 2010

This is a bit of a belated post, i have been meaning to update this but i havent got around to it with work and other commitments, so here it goes.

The whole track was completed by the end of August, so in total it took me around 2 weeks to put the track down and get power to it. I will admit that it was a complete and utter rush job, and although i was pleased with my effort i was never satisfied with it fully. Angles on the wood were not correctly calculated, rather slapped together with what ever fitted, however the plan was to order 3 tonne of smaller stones to fill and hide the gaps... Heres the continuation of the build....

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The first oval was completed with 4 Radius three in each corner it was looking great! Dad was planning on completing the decking sometime soon so it gave me plenty of scope to carry on building. all the current trains fitted underneath with loads of room, however i purchased a Bachmann Whitepass steam loco which did have a bit of difficulty but 10 mins with a sander, and it was all systems go again!

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As with anything in modeling nothing really works first time. Most of the track needed to be cut to length. I really hate cutting new track as it seems so wasteful.. never mind ey!
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A few gaps here and there were sorted by inserting extra little pieces of track. Another alternative would have been to drop solder inbetween the gaps, however this would have been a nightmare if i were to take the track up... which i did... more of that later....

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This is the view under the decking!

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once i was happy with the first line, the second was underway. Originally i did try to insert a R2 curve with a 1foot strait, this did curve the mountain nicely however it was not right. A trip down to Jeremy in Dragon G Scale sorted it out. After much deliberation i bought some custom bend track. The track was screwed to wood and bent as seen fit. If i am being honest, it did look far better than my original solution.

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The custom loop then went in to a Radius 2 curve to make a dog bone. This was quite easy to do and at the time i thought looked great, but one problem that i have suffered with since this track went down was the twisting of the wood on the Radius 2 track. Its hard to explain but i parts of my garden are higher than others which means that some of the track may be at different levels causing large trains to derail. :-( Bad times... this was something that i have learnt later on and didnt know at the time.

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For years i have had an X piece of track and i have wanted to do something with it ... so i did! There was thee four new points installed on this new stretch. To give you some idea of timescale, the inner track took around a day to put down. The third track was starting to be installed. This would be a Radius 1 track.

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Another pic of the completed inner track.

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Inner most rail going down now.

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Three rails is something that i have wanted for ages but in reality when it was down i never really used it.

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So there it is in its mighty glory! Three tracks, 5 points one station and a LGB shop.

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Snow came in Jan too so i thought i would put a pic of that in!

Now to the present day!

Today the track looks like this:
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The original radius three is still down, however i am going to redo the wood base. With regards to the inner two dogbones they came up as i am going to redo the track this year in the summer! I have no real idea as to what i think will be best so i am open to ideas! One idea that i did have was to cover the washing line area with decking around 4 foot all around and but a few houses around there, however there will be a lot of water dripping from there from the washing line.

So any idea as to how to proceed ?
 
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