Jackson Sharp scale conversion article

[ge_rik]

A few aeons ago, I remember seeing an article in the Garden Railways mag about converting a Bachmann Jackson Sharp coach to 1:20.3 scale. Needless to say, I now no longer have that mag.

Anyone out there still got a copy (or know of a source online for a similar conversion)? I've done a bit of trawling but not found anything.

Rik

 

[spoz]

There's an article in the current (April 2014) issue about kitbashing one into a 1:20.3 open air (tourist, effectively) vehicle; you might be able to adapt that. I can't find any reference to any other article in the indexes on the GRwys website; I'm a subscriber so if it's there I should be able to find it.

Steve

 

[maxi-model]

I'm not sure how you would kit bash a supposedly 1:24 JS to a 1:20.3 as the size disparity on all dimensions is quite a bit. I have the AMS 1:20.3 and it is enormous when placed against the Bachmann. Ok, a 1:20.3 Connie to a 1:22.5 K-27 reduction but with that sort of size enlargement :-\ What exactly is it that you want to end up with ?
Max.

 

[Tim Brien]

I have lengthened numerous coaches but still retaining the original height/width dimensions. This makes a nice approximately 1/22.5 model. However, the Bachmann model is very approximate in most dimensions with firstly only twelve windows and the window widths have been compromised to enable the overall coach dimensions to be reduced to run R1 curves. To convert the stock coach, retaining its original length, would require cutting longitudinally the length of the car and widening about an inch or so. The coach side below the windowsill would then need about 3/8" or so to get a reasonable coach height. All dimensions quotes are very approximate and only a guide to give you an idea of what is needed. All in all a very complicated build.

 

[ge_rik]

I'm not sure how you would kit bash a supposedly 1:24 JS to a 1:20.3 as the size disparity on all dimensions is quite a bit. I have the AMS 1:20.3 and it is enormous when placed against the Bachmann. Ok, a 1:20.3 Connie to a 1:22.5 K-27 reduction but with that sort of size enlargement :-\ What exactly is it that you want to end up with ?
Max.

Hi
Basically, I have a couple of JS coaches I bought ages ago as a temporary measure with the intention of basing them into something vaguely like Pickering balcony coaches (I did say 'vaguely') and maybe a cross between them and the Southwold balconies with a flavour of the Ashover coach sides. As you can see, I'm not after something prototypical, and I don't want to lengthen them a my curves are a bit too severe. I wanted to heighten them a little, do away with the clerestories and possibly widen the window openings (maybe double width).

I know this sounds like sacrilege to the purists but I just fancied a couple of cheapish coaches to run on my UK-based light railway and given I have these sitting and doing nothing .........

I felt sure I've seen an article in G Railways about a bash (and we're talking at least ten years ago) - but maybe I'm imagining it.

Rik

 

[ge_rik]

There's an article in the current (April 2014) issue about kitbashing one into a 1:20.3 open air (tourist, effectively) vehicle; you might be able to adapt that. I can't find any reference to any other article in the indexes on the GRwys website; I'm a subscriber so if it's there I should be able to find it.
Steve

I'll give that a look-over - thanks. As you can see from my previous post, I'm just after a freelance bash but before I start hacking I'd just like to see what someone else has done.

Rik

 

[garrymartin]

I remember seeing pictures of one that had been bashed to resemble a Ffestiniog coach but I could not find it when I was looking for it myself, an earlier appeal I made on the forum for ideas or pictures of bashes didn't get any results

 

[ge_rik]

I found that the indexes for the mag are available for free on their website going back to 1988. I checked through every one and found nothing resembling a JS kitbash. So where (or if?) I saw the article is a bit of a mystery. Think I'll fly solo on this mod and see what happens.

Rik

 

[Tim Brien]

Several here have adapted the J&S coach to resemble a British prototype. On the old Gscale MAD forum a member actually cast new side pieces in resin to achieve a very nice coach with elliptical roofline.

I believe that Greg Hunter (or one of his GRASS affiliates) may also have adapted the coach to an Australian outline car.

 

[ge_rik]

Several here have adapted the J&S coach to resemble a British prototype. On the old Gscale MAD forum a member actually cast new side pieces in resin to achieve a very nice coach with elliptical roofline.

I believe that Greg Hunter (or one of his GRASS affiliates) may also have adapted the coach to an Australian outline car.

Maybe that's where I saw something. I'll try a more in-depth search on here in case any of those posts have survived the shift from GSM to GSC.
I'll drop Greg a PM as well.

Rik

 

[gregh]

I believe that Greg Hunter (or one of his GRASS affiliates) may also have adapted the coach to an Australian outline car.

GeofC on this forum has converted some bachann coaches, I'm not sure if they are what you want Rik.
here's the link - scroll down till you see the B coach conversion. You can get Geof's email from his website link. I'm not sure a PM will be read very often.
http://www.trainweb.org/btr/Rollingstock.html

The coaches are used in our Grasslander video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGpq_j-6j6o

(Skype is good !)

 

[ge_rik]

GeofC on this forum has converted some bachann coaches, I'm not sure if they are what you want Rik.
here's the link - scroll down till you see the B coach conversion. You can get Geof's email from his website link. I'm not sure a PM will be read very often.
http://www.trainweb.org/btr/Rollingstock.html

The coaches are used in our Grasslander video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGpq_j-6j6o

(Skype is good !)

Thanks Greg
Yes - it's amazing the difference a change of roof makes. Will definitely investigate further

Yes - Skype very good - will contact again when I get further on with the Picaxe project

Rik