Dodgy Dealings.....

dude2112

dude2112

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I have bought and sold on e-bay over the past three years many times but this is a new one ...
LGB track pack with what I want.. 0 bids until I bid the minimum amount and ayup I have already been out bid.... ???

How's that work then ? Never happened before on many items I have purchased and hope it never happens on items I sell....

I have been told that e-bay are bigging up some items by other users, but did not believe until now. :'(
 
There´s a function that allows you to set a price for a second bid, but presumably the first price that your competitor bid must have been below the minimum, otherwise it doesn´t make sense. :-\
 
I dont bid in the auctions always someone seemed to outbid me and I suspect schill bidding even though eBay say that is immpossible...

Instead use Auction Sniper, I get some great buys using it....

http://auctionsniper.com/
 
I don't think so Trev. I am already forking out enough for the item as it is. And Evilbay takes it's BITE out of my money when I sell.[e]101[/e]
 
Maybe this time somebody did actually bid at the same time as you?
 
If this happened near the end then...

If an item has 0 bids and someone has used an auction sniper ( I use Powersnipe), to follow it with a fixed upper limit say...£50. You come in with £35..then at the end you will be out bid as the Powersnipe will up the bid to the next level..maybe £38 so you will be outbid.
BUT this does happen very near the ned of the auction (about 2-5 seconds roughly from the end).

OR
The seller has another ebay username and just happened to be monitoring the item at the time that you bid and slammed in another bid from the alternative user. This 'schill' bidding has not gone away and I have found out a few 'circles' of bidders names who were repeatedly using that method to up the price achieved on fairly expensive items.
I reported them to ebay and it seems that they were dealt with as they have not appeared again..but ebay has definitely not stopped it happening completely!
 
beavercreek said:
If this happened near the end then...

If an item has 0 bids and someone has used an auction sniper ( I use Powersnipe), to follow it with a fixed upper limit say...£50. You come in with £35..then at the end you will be out bid as the Powersnipe will up the bid to the next level..maybe £38 so you will be outbid.
BUT this does happen very near the ned of the auction (about 2-5 seconds roughly from the end).

OR
The seller has another ebay username and just happened to be monitoring the item at the time that you bid and slammed in another bid from the alternative user. This 'schill' bidding has not gone away and I have found out a few 'circles' of bidders names who were repeatedly using that method to up the price achieved on fairly expensive items.
I reported them to ebay and it seems that they were dealt with as they have not appeared again..but ebay has definitely not stopped it happening completely!
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Yes, sniping does cost a bit extra but it eliminates bidding wars....
I found one person "Casbahevents" who was stupid enough to tell me to get a bid in on an item as bidding was going to start soon, sure enough 5 mins later bidding started and went way above the BIN..... Very Suspicious, reported it to ebay but of course I never heard anything....
 
I've twice had items withdrawn from sale when I've been the leading bid. No reserve price on either items and it looked suspiciously like the item was withdrawn in case it went for too low a bid. One of the items appeared ten days later as a relisted item.

I only use it sparingly nowadays as it's not what it used to be.
 
Now there's a surprise, I told the seller last night I was not happy... >:(
The item has now been removed. ::)
 
I would suggest, that, that suggests, someone with a violin! :-\ :o
 
bobg said:
I would suggest, that, that suggests, someone with a violin! :-\ :o
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Basil Rathbone?????????? :-\
 
Well he should be able to detect whom!

;) ;)
 
dude2112 said:
Now there's a surprise, I told the seller last night I was not happy... >:(
The item has now been removed. ::)
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Hmm so what does that say?
 
So to prove a point I just set up an ebay account as "Tramcartrevaswell" using the same email and account details..... If I was unscrupulous it would be very easy to bid on my own items.... How would I be detected? You cant see the bidders real name... IMHO all auctions are dodgy, the more expensive the item up for bids the more dodgy the practises.... Ive been to real etsate auctions where there were about 10 people outside the house and when I looked closley the auctioneer was taking bids from people breathing.... I bought my current home at auction when it was passed in and the Auctioneer was trying to get me to bid against myself...

But on eBay I have sold some amazing things, some of you will recall my track laying gauges and my "Hindsight" (went to an American for AU$102) people will bid on anything and pay absurd prices..
 
Prior eBay's 'privacy policy' one could research not only those bidding against you on items that you were interested in but also their buying history. You soon learned that if some one was a collector of certain items such as Coca-Cola or Mcdonalds branded products then you did not bid against them. A few years ago I was bidding on an LGB coach. A counter bidder would always outbid me. I looked at his previous month's bidding. In the last few weeks he had spent over $5000.00 on four baseball tickets. I thought that if he had that much money then it was pointless trying to bid against him. Sure enough the guy had the final bid price and it was three times the average price for similar items listed previously.

These days one cannot see another bidder's history and so any listing is ripe for shilling (although eBay would say that illegal practices do not occur). Then their privacy policy forbids them reporting back to you the outcome of any illegal activity that you may report.
 
sharpcreative said:
Trev

You should really start to worry when the auctioneer is taking bids from people who are NOT breathing!!
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I worry when they take bids from someone not even at the auction e.g. their office staff on the phone....
 
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