Burning home videos to DVD to play on a wide screen 42" TV monitor via a dvd player

Granitechops

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3 years ago I first started playing with video to send to yuo tube no problems I also saved some vides to CD to send to relatives to play on their TV screens. Did two videos & they played ok on my old TV.
Trying to repeat the same but cant get the right format to play on the TV. they play OK on the computer though.
I have been using windows movie maker right through, which I like, much easier than Media Impression that came with the new video camera
So what simple thing am I not doing thats confusing me??
 
:wave: Snap! I've been having the same problem, I thought it was just ME.
 
You have probably already tried this but have you been into the Tools Menu, and changed the Aspect ratio from 4.3 to 16.9?

Tools, Options, click the Advanced tab.
 
3Valve said:
You have probably already tried this but have you been into the Tools Menu, and changed the Aspect ratio from 4.3 to 16.9?

Tools, Options, click the Advanced tab.

Gareth, I saw that option but did not know what effect it would have,
Is that required for the wide screen?

I have not got access to the larger screen just yet & am still trying to get them to play on my old 'cubic' tv screen
 
Not playing at all on your DVD player? Sounds like maybe you haven't burnt the video as a DVD or a VCD. Just burning the file as an AVI will work on a PC but not on a typical DVD player (though some can handle these)
 
Granitechops said:
3 years ago I first started playing with video to send to yuo tube no problems I also saved some vides to CD to send to relatives to play on their TV screens. Did two videos & they played ok on my old TV.
Trying to repeat the same but cant get the right format to play on the TV. they play OK on the computer though.
I have been using windows movie maker right through, which I like, much easier than Media Impression that came with the new video camera
So what simple thing am I not doing thats confusing me??

Your old TV is most likely PAL.
Are you using NTSC in options, if so try PAL.
 
I been using Pal. so its not that

well I got round it by using windows Movie maker for editing etc, & "save for playback on your computer "

I bought a new dvd drive, with it was a software programme called Power Producer

editing in PP was useless it kept crashing,

but when I imported the Movie Maker files into PP, it quickly spat out a disc ( quickly? maybe 25 mins)

but I was dissapointed in the quality of the definition when played back on the DVD player on the big screen

A Toshiba 42" Regza, I have actually got the use of this for the next few weeks until the Exeter show on 23rd Oct

Googling the tv gives me the info "PC input"

So not being that savvy with latest IT, does that mean I can use the tv screen instead of my PC monitor?

would that give better resolution on screen

I have also tried slide shows thro the DVD player, was not impressed even though the files were 1.8MB
 
There's summat wrong here. When you say you saved some videos what did you save them from? VHS tape? If so, you don't go anywhere near the computer, you are just copying tape to DVD using your VHS player and DVD recorder. I f you are saying you have camcorder tape, or whatever, then you need the editor, and I personally wouldn't go near moviemaker, don't like it, but if it is all you've got then that's what you have to use. So you download the video to your editor, edit it, put in your titles, music, voiceovers and so on, then render it as a AVI. Now, using the editor, you export the AVI to DVD, this is "burning" it. As someone says, somewhere in there are options which will give you formats etc. It seems to me that all you are doing at present is looking at an AVI on your computer screen. That's OK for you, but not much fun for boring your friends and neighbours.
 
Granitechops said:
I was dissapointed in the quality of the definition when played back on the DVD player on the big screen

A Toshiba 42" Regza, I have actually got the use of this for the next few weeks until the Exeter show on 23rd Oct

Sadly the bigger the TV screen, the more you see the shortcomings of the DVD/video quality.
 
A Toshiba 42" Regza,

I am following this intently. I had no trouble with playback till I got a Tosh 42" R. The replay quality is lousy. It plays back from the camera sweet as a nut but not anything from disc the quality vanishes.
 
Granitechops said:
3Valve said:
You have probably already tried this but have you been into the Tools Menu, and changed the Aspect ratio from 4.3 to 16.9?

Tools, Options, click the Advanced tab.

Gareth, I saw that option but did not know what effect it would have,
Is that required for the wide screen?

I have not got access to the larger screen just yet & am still trying to get them to play on my old 'cubic' tv screen

Ah if you're trying to get them to play on your old 'cubic' screen then 4.3 aspect ratio should be OK anyway. Thinking about about even on the wide screen it should still play OK at 4.3 apsect but would just appear in the centre of the screen rather than filling it.

Hmmm I'll have another think.
 
What quality settings do you use?
Default for web are lousy, like youtube.
 
MRail said:
Granitechops said:
I was dissapointed in the quality of the definition when played back on the DVD player on the big screen

A Toshiba 42" Regza, I have actually got the use of this for the next few weeks until the Exeter show on 23rd Oct

Sadly the bigger the TV screen, the more you see the shortcomings of the DVD/video quality.

I tried a Commercial video, Shaun the Sheep, on the 42" & that lost some clarity, compared to 22" monitor
 
hagen said:
What quality settings do you use?
Default for web are lousy, like youtube.

I set the camera ( Camileo S210 ) to the highest setting 1080
& then get the best def I can get from the editing software.

The state of play is now

Can burn video to DVD, but loses detail at largest screen size (42") when played thro DVD player.

But when big screen connected to my PC

PRO
1, video clips play a lot clearer
2, JPG pic files are crystal clear

CON
got to re-jig slide show files so they play at length
got to find a way to link vid clips together without losing resolution

I dont want to spend my whole show playing with the computer

enthusiasts may put up with looking at youtube quality of definitiion

But the general public probably wont look for more than a few seconds

So I think my next step is to try editing a video for saving for playing on the PC, rather than DVD
 
Please do remember that a DVD-player only uses PAL resolution 720×576. in other words, not quite VGA quality even.
Playing the file from the computer allows you the full 1920x1080 (usually)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displa...a player, or get a Bluray burner and player.
 
Granitechops said:
got to re-jig slide show files so they play at length
got to find a way to link vid clips together without losing resolution

Playlist
 
Reading through this I have a feeling that the upscaling facility (or not) of your DVD player may be relevant. As some of you may know I have a fully fledged home cinema with a 3m wide screen - that equates to 135" diagonal - with a full HD 1080 projector. DVDs are upscaled from their native resolution (720x576 in 16:9 aspect ratio if I recall) to as near as possible to full HD - 1920x1080. You only start to get near to HD resolution when you upscale to 720p - which has been banded around the trade as HD ready, which I feel is a bit of a misnomer. However you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear - like a photograph you cannot actually improve on the detail contained on the original negative or computer file - all you can do is "pad" it intelligently, which is what upscaling essentially does. If you are starting with a Camcorder tape, then you have to be realistic about how far it can be pushed!

There is a big difference between the capability of Blu Ray at 1920x1080p and DVD at 720x576, but quite frankly you would really have to look closely to see it on a screen up to about 32" diagonal in size. Over that the difference becomes more apparent - but properly upscaled I can still watch and enjoy a DVD on my cinema screen. But I do tend to buy Blu-Ray as the difference on a good master is apparent at that size.

The other area to watch is compression. The more the file is compressed, the less the quality when it is decompressed for screening. Degrees of compression vary - and part of the problem that is being experienced may be down to your computer having the necessary decompression software decoders on board, and your DVD player not having these. Wrong decoder and you'll get nout!

Hope this might help a bit - but suspect that it won't!!
 
Agree with John above also, the TV involved can have a major bearing. Most modern LED and LCD ones will cope with a variety of formats but there is no consistency or standard approach. I have one TV a 34" Panasonic, which produces superb still images from Jpegs etc and one, a 26" Sony, which is dire, with grainy, shimmering images.
The older Sony produces brighter video then the Panasonic which has disappointingly "flat" low contrast image..
I am surprised that a Toshiba struggles, in general current models have a good reputation
 
Thanks John
very informative

the camera uses a flash card & looking at the manual it records at 1920 x 1080
 
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