After rain?

Sarah Winfield

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We're just experiencing our first (and I must say un-forecasted) rain since I laid down my partly completed track layout.

What do members (with electrically powered systems) do after a significant rain shower, please?

Thanks,

Sarah Winfield
 
Sarah, assuming that you keep the control gear indoors, usually the best thing to do is go out, connect it all up and play trains >:)>:)

There are no potential ('scuse the pun) disasters awaiting - if you have electric point motors or other accessories, then you will need to make sure that all of their low voltage electrics are well sealed against any form of moisture, but that needs to be done even for a little bit of dew.

Wheels may slip on damp track, but otherwise, it's just play time as normal :cool::cool::cool:
 
If you are talking about loco's and rolling stock getting wet then that is generally fine,it is designed to go outside remember.But do not let your central station or transformer get wet, that is bad.
 
It runs better in the rain as the track gets a wash.
 
Ive even run my hand car in a light rain! (See the header photos on my website. Most were taken in the rain.)
 
My track, including point motors have been out for more than 20 years in all weathers.
All still work with minimal maintenance. There are four point motors under the snow in this old image. Not posed, the train was running!
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I sit in side with the Base station and handset and watch the train run outside when it's wet, I,m not waterproof :)
 
You can certainly run in light rain.. You do need to be aware of the general construction of your loco's though.. - Example would be an American outline diesel.. these have large grill areas where the cooling fans would be.. It may well be that any decoders / sound-cards / RC receivers may be mounted below these?? Rain (or any water) directly onto electronics is obviously not a good idea.

I have even seen a loco run through a 'flooded' station in a garden.. Water was a few millimetres above rail-height. - Play imitating real life!
 
Hi Sarah,ditto what Phil says,I run analogue and no problems with rain or snow,when laying the track I used the conductive grease on the rail joiners and made sure the joints were nice n tight and as I use LGB,Piko,Peco and Aristo track together no problems after some down for 5 years or so,normally just plug and play is the order of the day.Take time with any electrical connections that stay outside lets say for buildings etc,keep them nice and dry and will then give you very little hassle,I find that brass rail(eg LGB,Piko) needs less cleaning than Peco nickel silver but saying that I don`t need to track clean before every run but the locos will tell you when the track needs doing as they will hesitate/jerk in places and keep the skids and wheels clean on locos and cars as that helps too;).For rails I use a simple foam block with fine wet and dry paper fixed,about 50p from DIY store and works fine with a quick rub.If your stock does get wet then make sure all is totally dry before putting away,normally the only time I get this problem is when snow plowing but not this year so very rare for me as normally only run in fair weather.When we start out in this hobby there are many questions we ask ourselves and someone on here will know the answers as the members on here helped me(and still do)when I started,just ask;);););););),there are some good videos on U tube to check out of snow plowing and Stainz locos running through puddles and even crashing into ponds so a shower of rain should pose no problems:cool:
 
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Much of this is contrary to my experience of after rain effects. First I find that some rubishy dust etc gets thrown onto the track causing glitches in sound and DCC Signals to the trains. Second a wet rail also causes glitches in sound and signal as well. If I am in need of running outside after damp conditions, not just rain but morning dew as well, I have an old Plasterers Thingimybob with some carpet on which I use to clean off both problems from affected area's.
The Thingamybob
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Old Carpet Tile used as cleaner. Not professional fixing of this! Just 3 screws.image.jpegWet Rail this morning after dew, hope you can make it out.
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As cleaned by Thingamybob
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You do see 16mm live steam boys using similar devices, they use them to remove not only dampness on the rail top from live steamers but dumped oil as well which causes no end of Traction problems for them.
 
Just make sure, that if some of your stock is of wood construction, that waterproof glue has been used, especially on the roofs!
 
You can certainly run in light rain.. You do need to be aware of the general construction of your loco's though.. - Example would be an American outline diesel.. these have large grill areas where the cooling fans would be.. It may well be that any decoders / sound-cards / RC receivers may be mounted below these?? Rain (or any water) directly onto electronics is obviously not a good idea.

I have even seen a loco run through a 'flooded' station in a garden.. Water was a few millimetres above rail-height. - Play imitating real life!
Watching Paddington last night GWR do not let trains run if the water is above the top of the rail so it looks like our little ones are more robust than the big ones.

On the models the only thing I would say is make sure they dry out in the warm, don't put them away wet in a cold shed in the winter. Guess how I found that out!
 
Oh, one other thing..
If after-market electronics has been fitted, then they may not be as robust in the wet..
As an example:
US outline diesels have big grilles, where cooling fans would be.. Quite often the amount of electronics required means that boards are under this area. - Something to be aware of..

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The "runability" of your rail after rain has a lot to do with your ballast. Dunnyrail has fine ballast/dirt right next to the rail, and rain splashes it up on the rail of course.

I use a much coarser ballast, max size just fits between ties, not near as realistic, but you can wash the tracks down with a garden hose, rain dislodges nothing, and rain cleans the rails.

So Sarah, the answer is: "it depends". In general, achieving a more prototypical appearance requires more effort, in basically everything.

I made a visual compromise, because my goal was zero maintenance. Stainless rail, coarse ballast, lots of drains in the planters, pneumatic switch motors, stainless rail clamps, 10 gauge wire. All pretty bulletproof and I spend more time running trains, so this was a good balance for me.

Greg
 
The biggest problem I have with heavy rain is what it washes onto or out of the track. That is, it may wash away some of the track bed gravel - which then needs to be replaced, or it may wash stuff [leaves, twigs, mud, seeds, pollen, dead insects, or whatever] onto the track - which will probably need removing. In particular, if you have points and point motors, you may need to make sure all the moving parts still move and have not been obstructed by any sort of washed in debris. Also don't overlook the wheel guides near the points - a lump of grit washed between them and the track can quite easily derail your train.
This can be caused by other things too [eg wind and birds and even trees]. The sliding switches on signals can get gummed up too - usually by a thin layer of dust, after the water has evaporated.
It's all a part of track maintenance, which really depends on the environment around your layout. I have a lot of trees around mine - which are great for shade, but play havoc when it comes to depositing unwanted rubbish on the track - especially after windy or rainy days.
A leaf blower will get the superficial stuff, but you will need some pointy tools, tweezers, and a can of compressed air to clean the points. I also spray the moving joints with WD-40 and/or cleaning lubricant, after all the dirt has been cleaned out - though NOT the motors.
Very occasionally it may be necessary to open up the motor casings, to clean the inside around the motor. I only use compressed air for this job. It is fairly easy to open these casings, by removing the 4 screws located on their top side {which are very easy to lose, if you aren't careful!]. It is very important to carefully reseat the lever that connects the motor to the track, after the cleaning has been completed. You will note that the cogwheel on the motor shaft has a small pin on it to stop it fully rotating. This must be left in a position that limits the rotation of the cog to a back/forward motion. Then the lever must engage properly with the cog, so that the whole assembly switches between 2 positions that represent the two positions of the point. This sounds a bit tricky, but it isn't very difficult to achieve.
If the motor has to be lifted out of the casing [not usually necessary] be careful to note there are two small strips of loose plastic either side of the motor, that hold it in place. These must be put back in the correct orientation - so it is important to note what that is, before lifting the motor. Do not try to dismantle the motor itself, and be careful not to damage the thin bare copper wires that connect the motor to the external terminals. The aforementioned sharp pointy tools are definitely NOT for use when cleaning inside the casing!!
This same process may sometimes be necessary for signal motors.
I should point out that opening up these casings is only necessary, if external cleaning fails to get the mechanical parts moving. It is usually not required. Most problems will be fixed by simply cleaning the external moving parts. [I even found a colony of tiny ants inside one of my motor casings, along with the fine dirt they kindly imported to feather their new home!]
Needless to say, it is most definitely NOT a good idea to have the track connected to live power, while these cleaning processes are being performed!
 
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I,m not waterproof :)[/QUOTE]
I find that if I remove all my clothes, my skin is completely waterproof - it only gets wet on the outside. Try it sometime!
 
Much of this is contrary to my experience of after rain effects. First I find that some rubishy dust etc gets thrown onto the track causing glitches in sound and DCC Signals to the trains. Second a wet rail also causes glitches in sound and signal as well. If I am in need of running outside after damp conditions, not just rain but morning dew as well, I have an old Plasterers Thingimybob with some carpet on which I use to clean off both problems from affected area's.
The Thingamybob
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Old Carpet Tile used as cleaner. Not professional fixing of this! Just 3 screws.View attachment 237690Wet Rail this morning after dew, hope you can make it out.
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As cleaned by Thingamybob
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You do see 16mm live steam boys using similar devices, they use them to remove not only dampness on the rail top from live steamers but dumped oil as well which causes no end of Traction problems for them.
Dunny,your thingimybob thing i think has the technical term of a "float",quite apt for the topic?;);)
 
Funning LGB locos and rolling stock in the rain or snow isn’t really a problem, some have even been known to go for an unscheduled dip in ponds and survived. I have run in the rain many times but I avoid running Bachmann locos, they are just not so waterproof and any exposed screws and metalwork will rust immediately! Hartland locos seem impervious to rain too.
Beware of any scratchbuilt stock which you buy. I have a couple of excellent scratchbuilt cattle wagons which I did not realise had card roofs - until they warped!
 
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