A wheely, wobbly, problem!

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I like Big Haulers and have done all sorts to extend the working lives of the roster that I own.

Latest to develop a fault was another of the Annies - 178 (D&RGW) Bumble Bee. I noticed last year it was running erraticlly but put it down to the wheel plating wearing away or dirty track.

Apologies for photo quality (I`m no Cecil Beaton)!

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Having cleaned the wheels and track it seemed to go a little better but, when stopped, it needed a little encouragement (gentle push) to restart.

During another clean and lube, I wondered if there was too much play in the conrod ends. It was then that I discovered the excessive play was actually in the front driving axle - allowing the wheels a few degrees of movement and letting one side or the other out of quarter.

So, taking things apart, I removed the errant wheelset. Having studied the offending item, I wasn`t too sure how it would come apart. So I opened the vice, allowing the wheelset to sit there on a vertical axis, and I used a piece of wood and hammer to seperate the lower wheel from the axle. This process also produced the same result with the wheel sitting on top of the vice jaws!

Once apart, I realised that the wheels and axle were assembled before the plastic (external) overlays were inserted! But, as the screws only retained the nylon bushes, I did no harm.

The cure?

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It`s the same as Loctite I suppose.

The wheels and other bits ......

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Not easy to make out, but one of the nylon bushes was slightly worn, plus the wheel that engaged with it appeared to also have some wear,

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The other bush appeared to be OK but even this yielded a slight movement when the wheel was pushed on...

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So, after a thorough clean and degrease, a drop of Bond-it was applied to each side of the `flats` on the axle and the nylon bush pushed on. The other end was given the same treatment and any excess fluid wiped off. Then it was a case of treating the wheel bores in the same way. The bearing brasses being placed on the axle and the bush retaning screws tightened up.

Then it was a case of firmly squeezing on the wheels - the vice was useful - checking the back to back measurement, wiping off any excess Bond-it (didn`t want the brasses to be an interference fit did I?) and then twisting it to gain the correct quartering. It was then a case of leaving it for a few hours to make sure the locking fluid had dried out.

The reassembled wheelset...

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The result was a nice tight fit and, once reinstated and the connecting rods fitted, the loco was tested.

Result!

 
Another simple but effective freebie cure Mick.
Excellent
The Annie can live again to cover even more miles of fun.

I will keep an eye on mine.
The problem I have is that the crummy Bachmann wheel plating has worn through on one of my Annie chassis and now gets black (from the arching) quite quickly and also leaves a black deposit on the railhead.
 
Yes, I have the same problem Mike. I put it down to all the R1s on the trailer layout but you are right - crummy! They must be flash plated - beauty is only skin deep. Sort of spoiling the ship for ha'p'orth of tar.
 
Thanks for a great fix Mick,so far not had this problem(nor Beavercreeks arcing)on any of my 6 Haulers but running on R1s suspect it will show it`s ugly face in the future,so printed it off and put it in the service manual folder,thanks again Mick for a great helpfull post ;) ;)
 
Two things chaps ;D ;D

Pecolube (used to be Electrolube) is the best thing for Annie axles and bearings.

If the plating really becomes an issue, it's time to convert to battery power ;D ;D ;D
 
Rhinochugger said:
Two things chaps ;D ;D

Pecolube (used to be Electrolube) is the best thing for Annie axles and bearings.

If the plating really becomes an issue, it's time to convert to battery power ;D ;D ;D

I use Bachmann's E-Z Lube - the conductive one. it comes with a screw-on needle (finer than many Hypo needles). But Pecoluble filed away for future sourcing!

As for worn wheels, it isn't the end of track power. I have put simple contacts on the tenders of some BHs and Annies - although replacing the wheelsets with LGB BB pick-ups would be a real benefit.

As for battery power, I would really like someone to post a "How to" for dummies like me. That is a full explanation of the parts, the acronyms, what to use, where to buy and how to build up! Equally, because I have up to five locos on the trailer layout, would I need dedicated controls for each one?

Programming, DCC and the like goes over my head and my wallet self locks ;D

Thanks again for all your suggestions and comments by the way. I posted the thread because the problem was a totally new one to me.
 
Starting from the bottom - no, you could control five locos with one transmitter - but not all at once (one at a time)

The Annie has a reasonably roomy tender and should be a fairly simple modification. Bachmann motors have low power consumption, and will comfortably run on 14.4 volts.

Our man Mr Walsham may have some ideas - he's probably got a photographic how to do it somewhere ;D ;D ;D
 
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