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tac foley

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Looking forward to seeing it, Max. Please post your results for us to learn from and appreciate. Tom is a great guy to deal with, BTW.
 

jimmielx

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With the current dearth of lining experts and high demand for their services in this hobby I am about to try my own experiment - waterslide lining transfers. Fox do a range of different widths, colours and corner radii that will suit my intended victim. Their transfers are printed, each line element separated, with the carrier film, printed design and laquer coat closely matched - no laborious and inevitably frustatingly inconsistent trimming required.

Subject - Darjeeling Class D, So, black lining superimposed on red and lettering from Endon. I'll see how it goes and if my handling and alignment skills are still up to scratch from my model racing car building days. If it don't look right I should be able to lift them with some strong adhesive tape, assuming I have not lacquerd them over for protection. I'll be interested to see how good the adhesive is on the Fox product. Max
I’ve used Fox Transfers lining and lettering. I’ve been very pleased with the results. patience and care will reward you with excellent results. I’ve had no problems with adhesion. Good luck!
 

maxi-model

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Looking forward to seeing it, Max. Please post your results for us to learn from and appreciate. Tom is a great guy to deal with, BTW.
It might be a while Tac as there is another project on the bench - Vale of Ffestiniog. However it should not be too long as I have vowed not to steam it, coating the body in a decal adhesion resistant oily film (the loco not me) till the task is done. Will my motivation and resolve hold ?

Note to OP - This is a classic example of thread drift that I have started here, sorry. By the way it was Tony Willmore I was referring to. Max
 

tac foley

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Whinemeal, here is a nexample of lining of a Single Fairlie by Matt Acton - I think nobody would argue with the fact that it is a masterpiece in all respects.

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Thanks to Mary Ann on the 16mm FB page. :)
 
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PhilP

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:inlove:

Tac,
Is that 'Matt', as in Roger and Matthew of NGRM? - Or have I made 2+2=several? :wondering:

PhilP
 

PhilP

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Doh!

Of course it is! - I need more sleep, obviously.. :yawn::(

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I am flattered and grateful for the recommendations, thank you. However, one of these locos has been on my bench before and a test spray of my paint system on a hidden area of black inside the body resulted in the black paint wrinkling. This means that *all* of the black paint would need to come off before painting, which would be a time consuming, messy and so expensive job. The loco went back to its owner still in black.

Other painting and lining specialists may use a different paint system.
 

jimmielx

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Whinemeal, here is a nexample of lining of a Single Fairlie by Matt Acton - I think nobody would argue with the fact that it is a masterpiece in all respects.

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Thanks to Mary Ann on the 16mm FB page. :)
Yes, that is spectacular work. Really elevates the model.
 

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I am flattered and grateful for the recommendations, thank you. However, one of these locos has been on my bench before and a test spray of my paint system on a hidden area of black inside the body resulted in the black paint wrinkling. This means that *all* of the black paint would need to come off before painting, which would be a time consuming, messy and so expensive job. The loco went back to its owner still in black.

Other painting and lining specialists may use a different paint system.

Without giving any trade secrets away, what is your paint system of choice. I know the use of cellulose paints with some modern, and not so modern, paints can result in crinkle finishes. Does your system have a form of barrier coat available to it ? Max
 
Without giving any trade secrets away, what is your paint system of choice. I know the use of cellulose paints with some modern, and not so modern, paints can result in crinkle finishes. Does your system have a form of barrier coat available to it ? Max
It comes from the automotive trade. I have no idea if a barrier coat is available.
 

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Bolendo

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I acquired the Bachmann "Thomas" stock as 16mm gauge coaches, and regauged them to 45mm by simply squeezing the wheels along the axles to the wider gauge. It was a lot of fun too. Even as six wheelers (with the middle wheels flangless) they do everything a bogie coach will do. But I guess you all know that. I enjoy learning.
 

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With a background like that, you're always going to be a winner!
 

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I acquired the Bachmann "Thomas" stock as 16mm gauge coaches, and regauged them to 45mm by simply squeezing the wheels along the axles to the wider gauge. It was a lot of fun too. Even as six wheelers (with the middle wheels flangless) they do everything a bogie coach will do. But I guess you all know that. I enjoy learning.
The leading coach still has its middle wheelset in dock for attention - just noticed that, and I need to attach the couplings more evenly. But it was my first effort.