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One of the reasons for the 'good old days' of low prices for our hobby was the emergence of cheap but (largely) decent Chinese manufacture: I can only go on my personal experience, but Accucraft UK's IOM locos and stock were priced where I could (with a stretch for locos) justify them to myself. They were/are well-detailed, well-made and are available instantly

The IOM Caledonia in Electric was my first brass/Accucraft locomotive. It worked out just under a grand which was the local AU tax threshold at the time. Customs couldn't work out exchange rates from the invoiced USA price back then either so it worked out in my favour with the AU dollar being worth less. I've been hooked ever since with brass, now live steam.
I just noticed a brass LGB/Aster NGG-13 for sale at GRS and they are asking £4,995. G-Wiz! Crazy, crazy ask price. :eek:
 

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I hear you Dan, as much as I like fancy food and fancy coffee, what to you have to show for it at the end of the day? In my case it was a bigger belly.

Took my lunch for years, bought a coffee machine, drove past the Starbucks, put the money in the bank.

At the time it seemed that some of my friends were living "high on the hog", eating lunch out every day, 2 Starbucks per day, but now it's reversed, my "lunch and coffee" money is in the bank earning for me.

It's all choices and I can afford a $1,000 phone if I want one (although I hate smart phones!!)

Greg
We all know how the ant and the grasshopper story goes. Pay now or pay later.
 

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I feel reserved each time spending 3 grand on a new live steamer not wanting to show some individuals what I've just bought because of their perplexed sneering.
It's less than what they spend every 2 months on booze, cigarettes, gambling and takeaway food. :think:
But you'll never convince them. I have friends that golf. Between club fees, tee off fees, golf equipment, golf cart rentals, and any other fees I'm not aware of and finally the time spent at the bar after a round of golf, they probably spend alot more than we do on our hobby.
 

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Thinking about the price rise over the last decade or so, Preiser figures used to be available for around $17.00 +/- for a three or four figure set. The last time I purchased any new Preiser figures, was around 2010. The average price now is around $45.00, with most of the rise occurring in the early teens.

Same for LGB starter sets. In the '90s, I could buy a Stainz set for around $150.00. Now they are three times that much.
 

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Try the Mars Bar technique. If you can remember the price of a Mars Bar when you first started work, how many you could afford with your weekly pay, compared to how many you could buy with your weekly pay now
 

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Try the Mars Bar technique. If you can remember the price of a Mars Bar when you first started work, how many you could afford with your weekly pay, compared to how many you could buy with your weekly pay now
This would only work if the Mars bars or any other confectionery was the same size, I think you will find these are now all in smaller sizes, part of stealth price increase.

P.S. is this thread drift :)
 

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This would only work if the Mars bars or any other confectionery was the same size, I think you will find these are now all in smaller sizes, part of stealth price increase.

P.S. is this thread drift :)
Yes there is less of them, but we're talking about how many of them. And yes you're right, this is probably thread drift
 

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Try the Mars Bar technique. If you can remember the price of a Mars Bar when you first started work, how many you could afford with your weekly pay, compared to how many you could buy with your weekly pay now
That's pretty simple - I never could afford a Mars bar :devil: :devil: :devil:
 

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Try the Mars Bar technique. If you can remember the price of a Mars Bar when you first started work, how many you could afford with your weekly pay, compared to how many you could buy with your weekly pay now
I remember seeing a similar comparison, using the price of a Rolls Royce as the benchmark. And unlike Mars bars, RR's have been getting bigger :D .
 

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You're right in most cases Jon, but wouldn't the world be a better place if there were a lot less cars onthe road? OK people will still use and need them, but if it becomes more practical to walk, bus, train or cycle than to take the car for a couple miles trip, that can only be a good thing. Perhaps if people actually thought about their commute to work, they would try and live closer to their workplace and daily commute car will fall off
Completely agree despite my apparent negative stance, I think that changing mindsets will be an uphill task not helped much by mixed messages from varying places. We need now to get started on Trams for Towns with announcements for at least 25 or more extensions or new systems as has just happened in France. The price of many of these comming in at less than has been given to Leeds for just the feasibility study! But we do not do things in uk like they do in France or indeed Europe, not when we were in and certainly not now we are out. Our current combined mayor having binned the so called CAM Autonomous system that was never a gier is looking at better and more bus services tgat will likely be as empty as the recently introduced dial a bus experiment in this area. Sadly, not till cars become unafordable will much happen but by then it will take too long to get anything worthwhile in place with our archaic way of not doing things.
 
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The IOM Caledonia in Electric was my first brass/Accucraft locomotive. It worked out just under a grand which was the local AU tax threshold at the time. Customs couldn't work out exchange rates from the invoiced USA price back then either so it worked out in my favour with the AU dollar being worth less. I've been hooked ever since with brass, now live steam.
I just noticed a brass LGB/Aster NGG-13 for sale at GRS and they are asking £4,995. G-Wiz! Crazy, crazy ask price. :eek:
They have had it for a loooooong time, now and at that price, are likely to be keeping it for the foreseeable future...I remember it from around four years ago at a similar price.
 

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But you'll never convince them. I have friends that golf. Between club fees, tee off fees, golf equipment, golf cart rentals, and any other fees I'm not aware of and finally the time spent at the bar after a round of golf, they probably spend alot more than we do on our hobby.
A person of my acquaintance once admitted to me that his golf habit cost him between four and six thousand pounds a year. IF, however, he made a trip over to Georgia [USA, not the former socialist republic] that could easily double, with pro-coaching costing FROM $400/hour.
 

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Completely agree despite my apparent negative stance, I think that changing mindsets will be an uphill task not helped much by mixed messages from varying places. We need now to get started on Trams for Towns with announcements for at least 25 or more extensions or new systems as has just happened in France. The price of many of these comming in at less than has been given to Leeds for just the feasibility study! But we do not do things in uk like they do in France or indeed Europe, not when we were in and certainly not now we are out. Our current combined mayor having binned the so called CAM Autonomous system that was never a gier is looking at better and more bus services tgat will likely be as empty as the recently introduced dial a bus experiment in this area. Sadly, not till cars become unafordable will much happen but by then it will take too long to get anything worthwhile in place with our archaic way of not doing things.
I wonder if petrol/diesel vehicles will be squeezed by filling stations closing/converting to charging points over the next few years? The reason I haven't gone down the battery route (on the road: rails are different :devil: ) is the faff and anxiety I have seen as members of the family search for charging points when on a journey. But what if the tables were turned and it was fossil fuel drivers who were having to cast around for refuelling? We could be in for interesting times, as the Chinese proverb puts it. But in general I am hopeful for the future: the old have always despaired of the young and the way the world is going, but each generation in turn makes the best hand they can from the cards they get dealt; which is of course how it has to be:after all, what's the alternative? :)
 

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Inflation? I started work (all right, it was a long time ago) on £5 for a 35-hour week. There is now talk of a minimum wage of £10 an hour. If my arithmetic is correct, that means the pound is now worth 1/70th of what it was...time for a revaluation?
Oh, and while looking through my collection of old couns, such as it is, I found an early Victorian half-farthing - when there were four farthings to the penny and 240 pennies to the pound... do the math, as they say...
Denice and I married in 77. We saved and actually lived in what later was the office for my business. (working on British cars) We saved and bought two acres of land then built our home doing most of the work ourselves. Another trick is stay put. We moved in haloween of eighty and are still here. Wouldn't trade our life for any other.
 
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This would only work if the Mars bars or any other confectionery was the same size, I think you will find these are now all in smaller sizes, part of stealth price increase.

P.S. is this thread drift :)
"Not that it matters.....But we don't even care.....Whether or not we care"
 

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As Spike Milligan once said - "The cost of being poor is going up".
 

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"You've got a condition called 'renal glycosuria,'" the consultant told me many years ago, "It's harmless, but every time you have a blood test, they'll think you're diabetic, which you're not."
"Should I do anything about it?" I asked.
He thought for a minute, shrugged, and said "Don't eat Mars bars." And I haven't, ever since.
 

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I can see his Topic developing into something of a Marathon. I hope you don't end up with a Bounty on your head, just gaze up at the Milky Way and be a Lion, otherwise it will be no Picnic.

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