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<p>Hi,</p><p>I hope this in the right place as I couldn't find an introduction forum. When I was young my dad used me as an excuse to start a garden railway :D well now I am older and have some time I thought I would like to have one of my own using my dad's old track and stock and I have a few questions.</p><p> </p><ol><li>I dont have that much track so I thought in the sidings/places where it cant be seen to use bent aluminiu or stainless steel angle bent like in this picture as rail<a target="_blank" href="http://s665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/speedy_11/?action=view&current=P6030203.jpg"><img border="0" alt="Photobucket" src="http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/speedy_11/P6030203.jpg" /></a> I know is not a good picture so I will try and find a better one</li><li>The track is going to run along an elevated garden bed but there is a 20ft gap which I use to get to my workshop so I need it to be removable, what is the best way to do this? maybe a very large stainless steel bascule bridge?
</li><li>As my dad has an LGB track cleaner I will be doing track power so is DCC worth the extra expense and effort required to fit? </li><li>Is there a suggested weight for rolling stock as I am considering making some simple wagon chassis' from aluminium but it might be to heavy?</li><li>Have you any information on the gas fired loco in this picture? (I will get a better picture and give it a clean :) next time I am there) <a target="_blank" href="http://s665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/speedy_11/?action=view&current=P1000399.jpg"><img border="0" alt="Photobucket" src="http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/speedy_11/P1000399.jpg" /></a>
</li><li>Have you noticed I love aluminium :rofl: </li></ol><p>Thanks</p><p> </p><p>Phil M
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here is a better pic of the bent angle. A quick calculation it works out about £1-3 for a foot of track depending on how much ali I buy in one go
<a href="http://s665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/speedy_11/?action=view&current=P5280190.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/speedy_11/P5280190.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
 
<p><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: medium 'Times New Roman'; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: #000000; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 11px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px" class="Apple-style-span">Hi Lotus - If you need track............. I have about 600ft of it and 20 odd sets of points....... Its from an estate sale I'm selling on behalf of a lady in Cyprus (all of the track is in my garage at the moment</span></span></p><p><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: medium 'Times New Roman'; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: #000000; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 11px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px" class="Apple-style-span">I can sell you track at &pound;3.00 a foot if you're interested?</span></span></p><p><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: medium 'Times New Roman'; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: #000000; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 11px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px" class="Apple-style-span">The parcels in black with the orange tape are the track parcels ;) </span></span><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: medium 'Times New Roman'; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: #000000; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 11px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px" class="Apple-style-span"> </span></span></p><p><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: medium 'Times New Roman'; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: #000000; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; font-size: 11px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px" class="Apple-style-span"><img border="0" alt=" " src="http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u79/isharples/Cyprus%20Trains/IMG_9143.jpg" /></span></span></p>
 
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hello phil and welcome along! 20ft is pretty long so you will indeed need a strong structure with plenty of bracing. It depends on how you wish to run your railway and if you wish to be able to run multiple trains re the question on going dcc. the live steam locomotive is if i remember rightly a "Beck" loco, and was a follow up to the smaller "Anna" steam locomotive. They made quite a few and most are reliable runners, certainly more reliable than some of the Merlin designs. Have fun! :D
 
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welcome they are great here- i am a relative newbie too, it's been great! Ian S - is that LGB track?
 
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Welcome Lotus , my any chance do you have the car to go with the name :D
 
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Welcome to the forum Phil....
 
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The engine is a Beck "Helene" 0-6-2, piston valve and the original ones had PTFE (Teflon) ? pistons. Boilers were sound with a good "window" style water level sight glass. Many of the moving parts were chrome plated which did tend to wear off on bearing surfaces. The worst parts for this were the piston valves but these can be improved/repaired with installation of "O" rings. The regulator can be radio controlled but as they are slip eccentric reversing has to be done manually. Another down side is the pop riveted cab but this can also be changed is desired. The frames/chassis was a casting and very strong, the axle holes can be reamed out and bushed to take out wear.

The Helene was my first live steamer many years ago and was an excellent runner, although much modified over the years I had it.
 
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I believe that the "Helene" chassis was also drilled out for another locomotive that never emerged from the Beck factory but was going to use the chassis that Helene did. If you turn the engine upside down you can see the extra holes ready, one can only guess what else would have emerged had the engine actually been manufactured, it could have been for the Beck/Merlin "matador" locomotive, but that in the end emerged with its own custom chassis, so maybe something inbetween was thought about.
 
Yep CoggesRailway - Its all LGB track!

PM me if interested and I'll give you my phone number - I'm in Preston - Don't know where you are, but posting a large amount of track is going to be expensive - best if you can get to mine or could meet somewhere :D
 
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lotus

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Hi

Thank you for the warm welcome:)

Ian_S - 6/12/2009 11:33 AM
Hi Lotus - If you need track............. I have about 600ft of it and 20 odd sets of points....... Its from an estate sale I'm selling on behalf of a lady in Cyprus (all of the track is in my garage at the moment

I can sell you track at &pound;3.00 a foot if you're interested?

The parcels in black with the orange tape are the track parcels
Thanks for the offer however I am no where near starting until next spring I am just planning at the min, plus until I sell some cars I have no money:)

Elmtree Line - 6/12/2009 11:35 AM

hello phil and welcome along! 20ft is pretty long so you will indeed need a strong structure with plenty of bracing. It depends on how you wish to run your railway and if you wish to be able to run multiple trains re the question on going dcc. the live steam locomotive is if i remember rightly a "Beck" loco, and was a follow up to the smaller "Anna" steam locomotive. They made quite a few and most are reliable runners, certainly more reliable than some of the Merlin designs. Have fun! :D
yes 20ft is a big gap, however if I make it from polished stainless steel it will be strong and shiny. I was thinking about using two something like this one from each end <img width="600" height="465" border="0" alt=" " src="http://archive.liveauctioneers.com/archive4/newenglandtoytrain/19452/0338_1_lg.jpg" />

Steve - 6/12/2009 1:12 PM

Welcome Lotus , my any chance do you have the car to go with the name :D
yes I have more racing cars over the place than trains. Usually own design and then built with a steel chassis with hand beaten aluminium bodywork however I have a few Lotus and a few other strange things:)

wpandyr - 6/12/2009 1:48 PM

The engine is a Beck "Helene" 0-6-2, piston valve and the original ones had PTFE (Teflon) ? pistons. Boilers were sound with a good "window" style water level sight glass. Many of the moving parts were chrome plated which did tend to wear off on bearing surfaces. The worst parts for this were the piston valves but these can be improved/repaired with installation of "O" rings. The regulator can be radio controlled but as they are slip eccentric reversing has to be done manually. Another down side is the pop riveted cab but this can also be changed is desired. The frames/chassis was a casting and very strong, the axle holes can be reamed out and bushed to take out wear.

The Helene was my first live steamer many years ago and was an excellent runner, although much modified over the years I had it.
thanks for the information, I think my dad wants it to be R/C then he can use it without bending down and chasing it across the garden:)
 
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be impressive bridge that, look forward to seeing it :)