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A few pictures of what I will have to work with.

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From side door


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Back to side door

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From small shed

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Benches in main shed

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Benches in main shed
 
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If the walls are what they look like, insulation seems a first priority.
 
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A few pictures of what I will have to work with.

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From side door


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Back to side door

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From small shed

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Benches in main shed

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Benches in main shed
Not sure that will be big enough for G Scale, have you considered Z Gauge?

So I am being ironic and extremely envious! I would agree with the insulation comment, if only in your case to help to keep out the extreme heat. 25mm Celtex (if available or equivalent) between battens that could have sheet mounted on top of that. You will see what I have done in my Layout Build thread, though in my case it doubles to keep out the heat in summer and heat in in winter.
 
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It's going to be hard to insulate those roll up doors. Yes 25mm Celtex and maybe wooden cladding (tongue and groove?) on the inside would make it warmer in both senses of the word. The space you have is fantastic, I'd be very happy with one of those sheds, but pity you don't have windows / natural light. If the weather is warm enough to open those roll up doors that will be a nice space to work in but could be a bit claustrophobic if you plan to spend many hours in there which I'm sure you do.
 
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A few pictures of what I will have to work with.
Reminds me of a smaller version of the hangers where I work?

Which might not be a good thing!

Still, I'm very jealous and it is a fantastic space for a layout....
 
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Very nice space! :envy::envy: (says the man with daylight, and leaves, coming through the roof). :oops:

I am guessing you will be more interested in keeping heat out, than in?
 
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The shed roofs are ventilated with "Whirly Bird" heat extractors and both have high roofs so the heat is above my head height.
The house is about 5Km due East of the coast and gets a nice sea breeze every day, so if I open the roller doors the breeze cools them as well..
There is an insulation product available if the need arises.
But after living in single digit territory a bit of heat is a welcome change plus there is the added bonus of the swimming pool round the front if it gets to hot

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Reminds me of a smaller version of the hangers where I work?

Which might not be a good thing!

Still, I'm very jealous and it is a fantastic space for a layout....
I to have done a bit of time in hangars, especially in tropical Northern Queensland, but that was a few years ago.
 
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Nice shed!:envy:
 
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Big shed AND a swimming pool!

You can go off some people quite easily.. ;):giggle::giggle:
Mind you, would rather have our spiders etc. than yours! :eek::sweating::sweating:
 
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Big shed AND a swimming pool!

You can go off some people quite easily.. ;):giggle::giggle:
Mind you, would rather have our spiders etc. than yours! :eek::sweating::sweating:
There are no spiders at the house the crocodiles ate them all ;) ;)

As we tell our US visitors at work when you come to Australia if the fauna doesn't get you the flora will.
 
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It's going to be hard to insulate those roll up doors. Yes 25mm Celtex and maybe wooden cladding (tongue and groove?) on the inside would make it warmer in both senses of the word. The space you have is fantastic, I'd be very happy with one of those sheds, but pity you don't have windows / natural light. If the weather is warm enough to open those roll up doors that will be a nice space to work in but could be a bit claustrophobic if you plan to spend many hours in there which I'm sure you do.
Windows can be added relatively cheaply if need be or I could replace a couple of roofing sheets with polycarbonate sheeting that will let the light in. The roller doors would generally be open during the day and only closed at night time or when its raining.

The roof is very high standard is 2.4M but these are high clearance I guess about 3M (10ft)the previous owner had 2 caravans in the big one and stored all his accessories in the small one hence the mezzanine.

The pictures are of the small shed with the mezzanine the clearance under it is 6ft.
The plan is to use these as my clean (electronics etc) and dirty (grinding drilling painting etc) work areas.

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You have obviously thought this through, I look forward to seeing your progress.
 
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I have just purchased my retirement house with 2 conjoined sheds one 6Mx7.5M and the other 6Mx4.5M.
Original plan was to build a layout in the garden (raise about 1-1.5M above the ground to save the knees.
The sheds now shed (no pun intended) a new light on whether to go outdoors subject to weather or all weather indoors.
I am looking for inspiration on indoor layouts so am asking the group to help.
Any suggestion welcome.
I have an extremely detailed 12' x 12' indoor layout. We have been playing with it for 5 years. It has a double reverse loop with one end hidden and the other end in a mine scene. We have a logging scene and an 1890's town (grain elevators, stockyards etc) We use geared locomotives, horse drawn wagons. It has a 8% grade up to the logging and mining scenes. We are ranchers in the plains of America and an outdoor layout would not survive.
 
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I like very much this thread !! with particularly those beautiful pictures.
My point of view :
a) my indoor railroad is at 0.85 meter height
b) have good lighting ( for usual operation but also for pictures and videos )
c) have a heating system for winter time
d) make sure you have access to every place of your railroad (0.90 m max)
e) build a very srong benchwork
f) anticipate place for railroad control intallation
 
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While inside and garden are different in the rewards,
I agree with aria.

Make the space comfortable, warm/cool, well lighted, work bench, bar stools, etc.

I happen to love detail in model railroads. Not rivet counting, but figures, baggage, tools, special effect lighting, things that create the atmosphere. I think this is easier to execute, and to see on an indoor raised layout.

And, the real plus of an indoor raised layout, imho, is not only protection from the elements and creatures, but the ability to do fine detailing in your scenes. And, virtually eliminating the wear and mishaps that always seem to arise with exposure to the elements. And of course perfect, or close, track work.

If you later fancy an outdoor branch line, add it.
Outdoors, well you have the joy of real plants and lighting, rain, snow?, etc, but hard on accessories.
 
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If the walls are what they look like, insulation seems a first priority.

Definitely yes to the insulation. Since your outer walls are metal, some sort of air space should be provided between the metal and whatever type of insulation you may be installing.

The inside face of the metal will sweat in certain types of weather, which will migrate into the insulation, not good. Here, in the States, when insulating a roof over a living space, styrofoam baffles are placed up against the underside of the roof sheathing, allowing air to circulate so that the wood sheathing doesn't sweat and rot.

As far as the finished wall on the inside of your building goes, I would suggest moisture resistant drywall.

You may not be asking for all of this advise, but what the heck, we like to give it anyway, just in case.....:lipssealed:
 
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c) have a heating system for winter time

Definitely yes to the insulation.
Gents, he already said his winter temps are 25 C (77 F). He's in Australia, in a hot zone (35 C summer) much like Florida, but with nice sea breezes. I see no need for insulation if he plans to open the doors frequently.

Wish I had a pair of sheds like that! (Can't say I envy the climate, as I already live in Florida!)
 
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So. As you can clearly see there is no interest in this subject.

Ha. I wish you big success with this layout and look forward to your future posts as to progress.

I will be building outside in the Spring. I intend to raise my line because of snow. I'm considering heights as well.

Cheers,
McChuck
 
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I have an extremely detailed 12' x 12' indoor layout. We have been playing with it for 5 years. It has a double reverse loop with one end hidden and the other end in a mine scene. We have a logging scene and an 1890's town (grain elevators, stockyards etc) We use geared locomotives, horse drawn wagons. It has a 8% grade up to the logging and mining scenes. We are ranchers in the plains of America and an outdoor layout would not survive.
Any chance of some pictures of your layout please?